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  Time of The END ????

  by wobble in

  1. watchtower
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  a number of religions ,not just the wacky dubs, claim we are in the "time of the end ".

  now, leaving out silly numbers and 1914, which was blown away years ago, what do such apocalyptic doom-mongerers have from scripture to give this idea credence ?.

  the only thing i can think of , apart from the "cry of peace and security " which is no proof at all, is daniels dream image in dan chap.

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  paul from cleveland

  More and more people I talk to think the world will end in 2012 according to the Mayan calendar.
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  If you support her decision, then you will, no doubt support her shunning of you, as well.

  Good point. I guess I don't support her decision.
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  "Sis, if I knew what I know now, there's no way I would have been baptized.
  If I tell you what I know now, and you tell others that I told you, they will shun me for the rest of my life.
  If you get baptized, you may be in the same predicament I am in."

  That's about perfect.
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  unduly: Undeservedly, not warranted

  
  
  I meant unduly in this sense:

  unduly: to an undue degree; "she was unduly pessimistic about her future"

  undue: Excessive; going beyond that what is natural or sufficient
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  50? Wow. Do you know what caused her, at this point in her life, to become infatuated enough to want to be baptized?

  Her new husband had been baptized about 20 years ago. He's only been to a handful of meetings in the last 15 of those years but just recently decided he wanted to go back. She's just going along.
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  She's 50
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  Let me ask this question another way:

  If you had a friend getting baptized, what are the first 3 (simple) points you'd share with them? (or questions to ask them a la Reasoning Book style)
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  Yes, she did ask me what I think about it. I told her I would support her decision whatever that is. But that doesn't mean I can't still share a few other thoughts. She's not much of a student, so she's not going to read books with an opposing view.
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  If you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a JW, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go. My sister told me recently that she is getting baptized. I'm undecided about what to do... if anything. She said she'll "still talk to me" even if she gets baptized but I'm sure that won't happen since my brother is a very 'by the book' elder and will reign her in. I think that I should speak now or forever hold my peace. I don't want to unduly influence her, but perhaps just share a few points to present a little more balanced view of what she's really getting in to. What would you do?
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  the wt 1989

  by Adrianoblue in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just read a quote from our poster "albert einstein".

  he wrote the wt from 1989 stated that armageddon will occur within the 20th centurie.. ist that information correct????.

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  paul from cleveland

  Thanks Black Sheep. Unbelievable. Do you have more recent examples as well?